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Steve Jobs’ Apple-Adobe Letter: A Bullshit-Free Translation

Boy oh boy, Steve Jobs is pissed. His Holiness recently posted a scathing letter about Apple and Flash. We ran it through our patented bullshit translation software to see what he really meant to say.

By (@jr_raphael)

April 29, 2010

Steve Jobs Apple-Adobe LetterDon’t look now, but the gloves are off and the claws are coming out in Cupertino.

Apple dictator CEO Steve Jobs published an approximately 5,000-page letter about Adobe on Apple.com this morning. In the letter, Jobs addresses criticism for his shunning of Adobe’s Flash on the iPhone and iPad. And he does it in a way that only Steve Jobs could.

Thankfully, we here at eSarcasm are in possession of a highly advanced translation tool, the patented Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ (you may remember it from such previous occasions as the Apple iPhone 4.0 event and the Microsoft-Yahoo partnership announcement). We ran Steve Jobs’ entire Apple-Adobe letter through the system to see what the Turtlenecked One was really saying. Here’s what we found.

Translation

Translation #1: The Apple-Adobe Beginnings

From Steve Jobs’ letter:

“Apple has a long relationship with Adobe. In fact, we met Adobe’s founders when they were in their proverbial garage. Apple was their first big customer, adopting their Postscript language for our new Laserwriter printer. Apple invested in Adobe and owned around 20% of the company for many years.”

The Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ interpretation:

“Adobe used to help Apple make money. Back when it focused primarily on then-Mac-centric software like Photoshop, we really needed Adobe in order to attract customers to our overpriced products.”

Translation

Translation #2: The Apple-Adobe Turning Point

From Steve Jobs’ letter:

“Since that golden era, the companies have grown apart. Apple went through its near death experience, and Adobe was drawn to the corporate market with their Acrobat products.”

The Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ interpretation:

“Back in the mid-90s, when it was looking like Apple was totally fucked, Adobe stopped fellating us and instead started developing stuff for Windows. That pissed me off, and I’m never going to let it go.”

Translation

Translation #3: The Apple Adobe Ban

From Steve Jobs’ letter:

“Adobe has characterized our decision as being primarily business driven — they say we want to protect our App Store — but in reality it is based on technology issues.”

The Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ interpretation:

“Adobe has characterized our decision as being primarily business driven, but they’re wrong. It’s also based on revenge, and control.”

Translation

Translation #4: The Apple “Open” Factor

From Steve Jobs’ letter:

“Adobe claims that we are a closed system, and that Flash is open, but in fact the opposite is true. Let me explain. … Adobe’s Flash products are 100% proprietary. They are only available from Adobe, and Adobe has sole authority as to their future enhancement, pricing, etc. While Adobe’s Flash products are widely available, this does not mean they are open, since they are controlled entirely by Adobe and available only from Adobe. By almost any definition, Flash is a closed system.”

The Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ interpretation:

“I’m Steve fucking Jobs; Apple fanboys will believe anything I say. (Remember when I told the world that smartphone folders were amazing and revolutionary?) If I say Apple believes in open systems, people will repeat it — even if I then go on to criticize Adobe for doing exactly what we do.”

Translation

Translation #5: Apple’s Proprietary Process

From Steve Jobs’ letter:

“Apple has many proprietary products too. Though the operating system for the iPhone, iPod and iPad is proprietary, we strongly believe that all standards pertaining to the Web should be open.”

The Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ interpretation:

“Apple restricts its customers in every possible way, because we can. Though we act like communists when it comes to controlling how people use our iPhone, iPod, and iPad, we strongly believe that other people shouldn’t do the same thing with any other technologies.”

Translation

Translation #6: When Apple is Open

From Steve Jobs’ letter:

“Apple even creates open standards for the Web. For example, Apple began with a small open source project and created WebKit, a complete open-source HTML5 rendering engine that is the heart of the Safari Web browser used in all our products. WebKit has been widely adopted. Google uses it for Android’s browser, Palm uses it, Nokia uses it, and RIM (Blackberry) has announced they will use it too. Almost every smartphone Web browser other than Microsoft’s uses WebKit.”

The Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ interpretation:

“When being open is financially beneficial to Apple, we’ll do it. Almost every smartphone Web browser uses WebKit — but you can’t use most of them on our iPhone or iPad. Because we’re open. And our browser is is better; we know what’s best for you.”

Translation

Translation #7: Flash and Web Restrictions

From Steve Jobs’ letter:

“Adobe has repeatedly said that Apple mobile devices cannot access ‘the full Web’ because 75% of video on the Web is in Flash. What they don’t say is that almost all this video is also available in a more modern format, H.264, and viewable on iPhones, iPods and iPads.”

The Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ interpretation:

“What I don’t say is that a lot of other content besides video is still Flash-based, and you won’t be able to access any of that on iPhones, iPods, or iPads.”

Translation

Translation #8: Apple’s Open, Remember?

From Steve Jobs’ letter:

“Another Adobe claim is that Apple devices cannot play Flash games. This is true. Fortunately, there are over 50,000 games and entertainment titles on the App Store, and many of them are free. There are more games and entertainment titles available for iPhone, iPod and iPad than for any other platform in the world.”

The Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ interpretation:

“So to reiterate: We don’t like Adobe because it’s closed, and we’re open. Apple devices can’t play any Flash-based games from the Web, because those are closed. But they can play any of the games in our highly policed App Store, for which we frequently deny applications that conflict with our business interests. Like I said, we’re open.

Don’t like it? Just try fucking with us. We’ll have the police raid your ass before you can get the words ‘invalid warrant’ out of your proprietary mouth.”

(Image courtesy current.com)






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Comments

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/DLJCDQDT3LM554ULGHECS5PJ7U Octav

    Is funny ideed but their translator works pretty well and makes a lot of sense

  • http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/ John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)

    Actually, Steve could have written a much shorter letter, as follows:

    = = = = = = =

    I wanted to jot down some of our thoughts on Adobe’s Flash products so that customers and critics may better understand why we do not allow Flash on iPhones, iPods and iPads.

    Basically, flashing involves the exposing of a person's private parts to unsuspecting victims, an action that is illegal in most jurisdictions, and is also pornographic.

    And you know how I feel about porn.

    Steve Jobs
    April, 2010
    = = = = = = =

  • w1ldm4n

    Very nice translation, after reading the original letter all I had to say was this:
    *cough* *cough* sorry, I'm allergic to bullshit

  • BP

    Nice translation. It is so funny to me that Apple calls itself 'open' considering they are like communists when it comes to their app stores, software, hardware, etc. LOL. I'm getting tired of Apple's crap.

  • diego

    funny..but i think the translation is pretty much full of shit…

  • http://www.aldocardenas.com Aldo

    These is a sneak preview of next update on Apple.com section

    http://bit.ly/b9AbfC

  • itomato

    Yeah – WebKit.. Apple was fucked without a half-decent browser, since they couldn't rely on long-time NeXT software developer Omni to deliver one – HTML > RTF > Display PDF?

    They took the bones of the most capable OSS technology, KHTML, and scrummed up a nice Cocoa facade.

    Apple was still courting a developer base with claims of 'open ness', offering Darwin and Streaming Server (which nobody but the Hackintosh community really GARA about), contributing WebKit back to the community as a noble gesture.

    Really, it boils down to self-serving tactics, which ain't got much to do with 'open philosophy', especially if it's the basis of decisions pertaining to 20-year long software and platform development experience.

    Enjoy your widgets, Steve.

  • http://twitter.com/Shonzilla Nenad Nikolic

    This BS translator 2.0 sounds like a revolutionary and magical tool!
    It's discourse analysis capabilities resemble those of Jon Stewart only it's not just politics that get ripped apart but IT _and_ politics.

    How much is the license?

    Cheers!
    Shonzilla

  • slbear

    As funny as your article is, in 5 years Flash will be dead or nearly non-existent if it doesn't completely rebuild it's self. It's a memory hog and if you open 10 or so web pages at once, if two or so are using flash, It's extremely irritating and commonly crashes any browser you use.
    P.S. I use a fairly powerful machine. Actually, it's about the most powerful you can get for under 2 grand. You can't write a decent app and expect it to work clean on multiple platforms without writing new code. All platforms suffer from the laziness of the programmer.

    • Matt

      get a pc, you won't suffer those freezes/crashes. I know I don't, even when doing the things you mentioned.

    • Ray

      that's like saying every flash developer will lose their jobs in 5 years. no way. working in an advertising agency, you see more and more clients wanting to use flash. i see it growing, not shrinking.

    • Atpeck

      What kind of crappy computer do you have? I have dozens of web pages open with flash ads and even some flash games when I'm at work (I get bored sometimes. Sue me), and I don't have any problems. That and my computer only cost about $700 to build.

    • Ratsnackbar

      Hmm, Post your systems specs. I would like to see what hardware you actually have that runs so poorly for $1999.99.

      If it's actually doing what you say it is the problem is the browser or the system my friend. Sure some poorly programmed Flash applications have memory leaks and can cause issues but not so many that it's a constant concern as you suggest.

      I have many systems, one of which is a 1.2 Ghz system with only 1 Gig of ram running Windows 2000 Pro and it does not have the type of problems with flash that you are having. If you would like send me $1999.99 and I will slap an Apple Logo on it and send it to you.

  • Roger

    What's the difference betweeen Hitler and Jobs?
    Their logo.

    • Camerloon

      And maybe the senseless killing of a whole bunch of innocent people but I guess that doesnt matter much…

      • NinjaKrill

        What do you mean? Steve Jobs did that, too, right?

  • Huzefa

    From Steve Jobs’ letter:

    “Apple has many proprietary products too. Though the operating system for the iPhone, iPod and iPad is proprietary, we strongly believe that all standards pertaining to the Web should be open.”

    The Bullshit Translator 2.0 ™ interpretation:

    “One dictator is enough for the tech world and that is us.”

  • dweeb

    Bullshit interpreter of you:

    “I am purposefully ignoring an elephant in the room… Flash is bloatware & has been for decades. Adobe, the great fellator of Microsoft, has not improved Flash's overbloatedness during this time period. It is a hit/miss solution for mobile devices, Macs, Linux, et al. HTML5 is going to put Flash in its place & Apple is facilitating this long overdue process.

    I hate it because I am a lazy programmer who does not want to rewrite code or &/or just a dweeb who thinks 'F everyone else who does not use Windows. We should all be assimilated to Windows & there should be no other option. Bah. Baaah.' “

    • Tedd

      You are completely right with what you write!!!
      by the way I used to be a Flash Developer for 5 years..
      now turning away from that technology…
      Software means EVOLUTION!

    • Kascard

      Flash and HTML5 are niot the same thing, HTML5 does not replace flash. flash is not just video. Flash may be a bit slow on macs, but it revolutionised the web and made sites like youtube possible. Adobe is not “the great fellator of Microsoft”, adobe is the reason that macs ever got popular, people thinking that because adobe making software for windows is somehow a bad thing are obvious fanboys who cant stand that macs cant do anything that windows cant.

      If flash is really so bad, then it will fail on its own and wouldnt need boycotting. If HTML5 is the flash beater, then theres no need to restrict flash, as everyone will move anyway. Oh except the “lazy” programmers of couse…

      You dont improve technology by restricting it

    • Atpeck

      Says the Apple sheep…

      I'm still waiting for Mac to make a decent product again. Haven't seen anything worth buying since they came out with the iPod touch. Most of their computers are junk and I'm having to deal with too many pissed off customers about the crappy iPhone 4. Thank God my store sells the EVO. Sprint must be loving the way the iPhone 4's problems are sending people their way. Their CEO is already buying Christmas presents for Steve Jobs.

  • dweeb

    Steve Jobs:

    “HTML5, the new web standard that has been adopted by Apple, Google and many others, lets web developers create advanced graphics, typography, animations and transitions without relying on third party browser plug-ins (like Flash). HTML5 is completely open and controlled by a standards committee, of which Apple is a member.
    […]
    Symantec recently highlighted Flash for having one of the worst security records in 2009. We also know first hand that Flash is the number one reason Macs crash. We have been working with Adobe to fix these problems, but they have persisted for several years now.
    […]
    In addition, Flash has not performed well on mobile devices. We have routinely asked Adobe to show us Flash performing well on a mobile device, any mobile device, for a few years now. We have never seen it.
    […]
    (about battery performance) The difference is striking: on an iPhone, for example, H.264 videos play for up to 10 hours, while videos decoded in software play for less than 5 hours before the battery is fully drained.
    […]
    although Mac OS X has been shipping for almost 10 years now, Adobe just adopted it fully (Cocoa) two weeks ago when they shipped CS5. Adobe was the last major third party developer to fully adopt Mac OS X.”

    Bullshit interpreter 3.0:

    “HTML5, the new web standard that has been adopted by Apple, Google and many others, lets web developers create advanced graphics, typography, animations and transitions without relying on third party browser plug-ins (like Flash). HTML5 is completely open and controlled by a standards committee, of which Apple is a member.
    […]
    Symantec recently highlighted Flash for having one of the worst security records in 2009. We also know first hand that Flash is the number one reason Macs crash. We have been working with Adobe to fix these problems, but they have persisted for several years now.
    […]
    In addition, Flash has not performed well on mobile devices. We have routinely asked Adobe to show us Flash performing well on a mobile device, any mobile device, for a few years now. We have never seen it.
    […]
    (about battery performance) The difference is striking: on an iPhone, for example, H.264 videos play for up to 10 hours, while videos decoded in software play for less than 5 hours before the battery is fully drained.
    […]
    although Mac OS X has been shipping for almost 10 years now, Adobe just adopted it fully (Cocoa) two weeks ago when they shipped CS5. Adobe was the last major third party developer to fully adopt Mac OS X.”

  • jonivanbogaert

    Love it! Great translator, now people will finally understand the letter and know the truth!

  • Elpapijt

    Sorry, but I agree with apple on this issue, screw flash. I've had my iPhone for three yrs w/ no crashes while my wife's blkberry crashed repeatedly.
    I don't really care about flash based video as most is just porn.
    Flash is bloated with spam, if I could block it on my mac I would.

    • Bran

      Idiot

    • cd

      flash based video.
      98% of the video on the web.
      Steve Jobs just wants you to think its porn

      I've been running flash videos on my droid using skyfire. No crashes.

      Stop drinking the cool aide.

    • Lars Clasen

      yes, there is a flash blocker plugin for Safari
      http://clicktoflash.com/
      It blocks al flash until you click on it to see it

      • SouthernerinYC

        I rarely agree with Apple, but on this issue I kind of feel they're right. Since I installed flash blocking software in firefox, my web browsing has been a much more pleasant experience with fewer crashes and I don't feel I miss out on anything. And while people are right that Flash will probably die on its own, I offer this analogy. If you have a lame and sick horse that is eventually going to die, you don't saddle it up and ride it more, you shoot it and put it out of its misery.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Leach/511474692 James Leach

          You can shoot your horse if youd like…but i wouldn't. In a world where the only transportation IS horses, i'd hate to pass you on the road going 10mph while you walk your silly arse to the hospital because the gun backfired.

          In addition…i bet my horse can get me more places–faster and farther than your bicycle.

          And after you shoot your horse…why don't you shoot your TV, shoot you're computer, and shoot your phone…that way you make sure that anything you own that's interactive disappears…because of course, the 1% who hate flash will definitely make html5 come in 9 1/2 years instead of 10 if they don't use it.

    • http://www.pjerky.com Pjerky

      I have had my iphone for 2 years now and I have had problems with it crashing since the very first week. Multiple trips to the Apple store does nothing. Their response is to reformat it and reinstall the OS (sounds a lot like older versions of Windows to me). Never mind that every time this wipes out my contacts and any data I have saved to the phone because most of it just can't be extracted from this data death trap. Yeah, you must not use your iphone for anything but calling because that is the only app that DOESN'T crash for me.

      Lets count off the apps the crash that are standard:
      1. Safari (ok, some websites suck, I can give them some leeway here)
      2. Maps (WTF man, this is simpler than web browsing yikes)
      3. Mail (who the hell hasn't mastered reading a freaking email for crying out loud)
      4. iPod (this company specializes in MP3 devices and they can't build a simple playback app that doesn't skip or crash randomly, WTF? Now to be fair this isn't very often, but it does happen)
      5. The App Store (wow that will really sell me some swag)
      6. YouTube (…. How do you fail with code that someone else has already perfected???)

      So I am pretty sure Apple doesn't really have a leg to stand on here at all. And they didn't even build the OS originally for mobile use. The iPhone OS is just Mac OS X skinned and ripped apart for a rush job build for mobile use. That is probably where a lot of these issues come from. They try to suppress features that were in the OS in the first place and tried to scale it down for a purpose it was never meant for. Smart. This is why Android and WebOS works a lot better than the iPhone. You can bet that my next phone (when my crappy contract expires this fall) will not be an iPhone or any Apple device.

    • Naramartian

      Your bias is showing …
      BTW, 2 years with my crackberry and NO crashes of any kind including flash.

    • http://www.facebook.com/brian.lowther Brian Lowther

      You can, dumbass.

  • Elcapitan

    The BS translator is 100% accurate. I love all the Apple fanboy comments. I see they're all inhaling the Job's smoke plume and obeying as usual. What makes Flash great isn't that it's a superior technology. It's that it works on all operating systems and browsers. Write your application once and you're done. Apple is voluntarily causing a format war that is going to force Web developers to rewrite thousands of applications if they want them to run on the iphone and ipad. The knock on effects that this will have on innovation and productivity will no go unnoticed. This is Apple hypocrisy and arrogance at it's best.

    • http://twitter.com/nickheer Nick Heer

      Yeah, HTML/CSS/JS is a proprietary, closed system.

      Wait.

      • Elcapitan

        Does HTML 5 work on all browsers? How long do you think it's going to take for general public to upgrade to a browser that does? You'd be surprised how many IE 6 browsers are still out there, particularly in the Enterprise. Add in the fact that Firefox will not support h.264 (http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Youtube+HTM…) and you've got a situation where developers need to support 2 code bases for every video application they create.

        • Brian J. Bartlett

          If you bothered to read the article you link to, H.264 is not unencumbered. As has been pointed out elsewhere, at any point the patent holders of H.264, of which Apple is a member, can hold us up to extortion to utilize their patented codec. One more nail in the Apple so-called 'open' standards. Frankly, as with Flash which has always been disabled by default here, I won't be a participant and if that walls off more than a little bit of the web, so be it.

          BTW, you may want to go read those license agreements that come with H.264 video recorders. You just thought you could use it for professional purposes. I only wish I were joking.

      • Ton_y

        HTML/CSS are about as open as Flash.
        Actionscript in Flash is based off of the same standard that JS is based off of.
        And of course the various browsers out there add their own extensions to HTML/CSS/JS
        Then there are all the different JS based libraries and frameworks that people have to download in order to make certain websites function.

        Apple owns the patents on the canvas tag used in HTML5 by the way.

        You might like reading this blog post:
        Flash is as open as HTML5 – Link

      • jprivett

        wait, you dont have to by flash to write AS3…which is what Flash is all about anyway…

        • http://www.facebook.com/dan.tynan Dan Tynan

          are you sure you guys are on the right site? the meeting of hopeless web geeks is down the hall, third door on your right. thanx.

  • Lars Clasen

    Boy o boy, what an embarrassing day for Adobe:

    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2010/04/29/htm

    Isn't that a funny article by Dean Hachamovitch, General Manager Internet Explorer of Microsoft, basically confirming Steve Jobs is right and MS will follow the same route (much slower as always).

    Can we have a BS translation, please!

    In the end this puts the open letter of Steve Jobs into a completely different light.

    End of discussion, embarrassing defeat for Adobe

    • Charlie

      Huh? How did you extrapolate that from Dean's post? Dean only said that IE9 will fully support HTML5 Video and that his team has decided to support H.264 as the native HTML5 video codec in IE9. Microsoft is not banning Flash, and it certainly isn't banning Silverlight, so Dean's post is nothing like Steve's. All Dean did was confirm the HTML5 roadmap for IE9 which had already been rumored earlier. Steve's post is all about trashing Flash under the guise of “support open web standards”.

      • Sal

        “Steve's post is all about trashing Flash under the guise of “support open web standards”

        BS untranslator: “like any other CEO, Steves post is all about defending the valid choices made by his company”

    • Meh

      My favorite sentence in that statement? “Flash does have some issues, particularly around reliability, security, and performance.” What is there other than those things? If I offered you a computer and told you, it wouldn't always work, when it did it would be slow, and you'd be constantly at risk of having all of your information stolen, you'd refuse even if it was free….

      • Brian J. Bartlett

        “If I offered you a computer and told you, it wouldn't always work, when it did it would be slow, and you'd be constantly at risk of having all of your information stolen, you'd refuse even if it was free….”, I wish that were true. As we have seen over and over, people are more than willing to use it EVEN when they have to pay for the experience. This isn't unique to Apple, Adobe, Microsoft, or any other technology company, it is just truth.

  • fedupwithadobe

    I for one appreciate that Apple polices it standards… the only time any of my apple equipment freezes is when I have an open browser page with a memory hogging flash running… yes, there's lots of flash animations on the web, but most of them are ego ode intro screens conveying no information that thankfully most developers will let you opt to “skip.”

    Wish more companies would police the quality of what goes on their machines… “open” is only meaningful if it works.

    In all these comments, haven't seen one that says how great flash is…. very telling… is this the best defense of flash you've got?

    I've been using Adobe products since versions 1.0… they have gotten buggier and buggier over the past 5 or 6 years as they've gotten more and more expensive… since they bought the Macromedia products, those have gone downhill as well…I expect these kinds of problems from shareware, not from software costing thousands of dollars. Their tech support is crap, they are “mean” to their customers – nothing is ever their “fault” even with message boards full of people reporting the same problems … Adobe should fix its products, get back to quality software and then maybe
    they would have a leg to stand on….

    • http://twitter.com/catsfive catsfive

      What kind of stupid logic is that?

      For the past 10 years, I've been making my living off Flash. And what the browsers wouldn't or couldn't do, Flash has been delivering some of the best and most cost-effective motion around. All you need is their tiny, unobtrusive player, and you're done. I'm no Adobe whore, but give Flash its due. The player is ubiquitous. It's sleek and small considering what it delivers, and, though it's so ubiquitous, Flash has never, ever, EVER stooped to Apple or M$'s level by trying to leverage that “monopoly” for evil, monetary gain. There is no reason for Flash not to run on the iPhone, other than some stupid, ego-fuelled fued between two companies. It's what's been fucking with the 'net for so long, and it has to stop somewhere.

      • http://twitter.com/nickheer Nick Heer

        “There is no reason for Flash not to run on the iPhone”

        Except they've tried running Flash internally and it sucks. It's slow, it's buggy, it drains batteries. Why implement that only to have people complain about it?

        Some suggest making it a preference, but that doesn't help much either. People will turn it on to try Flash, find it's incredibly slow and reduces battery life dramatically, and turn it off.

        Why would Apple want to give the tech support people another script and retrain them for Flash problems? Why would they want to ship a product with something that plainly doesn't work very “There is no reason for Flash not to run on the iPhone” should read “There are very good reasons for Flash not to run on a mobile device.”

        • kascard

          drains batteries lol. See your already taking jobs's word as gospel

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Leach/511474692 James Leach

          Adobe has negate 90% of the problems with OSX and the Iphone. Froyo will prove to the world that apple is full of bullisht. Flash runs great on it–better than other technologies in fact. They have…in labs–versions of the software which are hardware accelerated, don't ruin battery life, and run beautifully…even on the iphone. It's apple's greedy ways which are preventing the product from running great. The bottom line is: apple wants you to believe flash sucks, because they want you to use their tools…they want to lock you into the iphone/ipad. AND>>>>They want you to be a fanboy in their cult. And guess what…you'll do exactly what steve says without any research…without any prior knowledge…why? Because apple buy's old tech at a discount so they can sell it at a price that's higher than new tech, so your experience is “magical”. The only thing that's magical about apple is it's users lack of logic.

      • fedupwithadobe

        It's the kind of logic that doesn't need four letter words and name calling to make a point….

        and it's “fanGIRL”

      • Meh

        Since when is being ubiquitous a defense? You know what else is ubiquitous? Disease.

    • Guest

      FANBOY!!

    • kascard

      If apple is so focussed on quality apps, how come things like “Fart Generator” get through. and those “10 sexy pics apps” which are just 10 images stolen from the web. steve Jobs doesnt care about the quality of apps, they just want to be able to brag about how many theyve got. This is just and excuse.

      • fedupwithadobe

        Duh…let's see if you can figure this one out….. is Apple a software company policing software standards…. or the friggin' Christian Coalition policing your taste and morality standards…?

    • http://www.pjerky.com Pjerky

      Funny you would say that about Adobe's software because I haven't had the problem on my Windows or Linux boxes at all. In fact if anything Flash player keeps getting better and better. Must be a problem with trying to create software for the Mac. You strangle a developer enough and he won't be able to maintain the same quality on your platform.

      As for the issues someone mentioned with putting Flash player on the iPhone, maybe the problem lies with the fact that Apple tried to squeeze a desktop operating system onto a phone. Not with Flash being inferior in some way. You put an OS that wants to act like a desktop on a phone and you won't get the best results. Jury-rigging an OS is called cutting corners and cutting corners makes it so things don't work quite right.

      If it can work fine on an Android phone or a Nokia then there is no reason why it can't work on the iPhone… unless the iPhone is flawed. By the way I do have an iPhone and I will be selling it as soon as my contract is up this fall. The thing crashes more often then Windows ME, half the apps don't work right, and they make extracting data (such as contacts) like pulling teeth. I am also tired of using a device from a company that wants to tell me how I am supposed to use my phone instead of listening to what I want it to do for me.

      • Atpeck

        God, I hear that a lot at work. People upset with their iPhone and trading in for Verizon. At least now, Sprint has the EVO 4 to pick up the deserting iPhone users as well. The EVO 4, which not only supports flash, but can download the latest flash player software from adobe's website, is able to run flash easily without crashing. Also, with the use of a task killer, you can extend your use of the phone by over twice as long. I know I've been able to play with mine for about 5 or 6 hours.

        For anyone who's even thinking about commenting on the “need for a task killer”, don't bother. Despite Jobs saying that anything that uses a task killer is using poor software, the iPhone has a task killer as well. They simply don't call it a task killer. I think it's called a task BAR which you can shut down software from. Just hypocritical.

  • s_jobs

    im sorry i was wrong..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x37FfA-8bcs

    firefox 3.6
    flash player 10.1 (full screen)
    win 7
    low spec laptop

    this is preview EC software made in Japan.

    global publishing and updates very soon…

    love from Steve. x

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/GSSNWTCONI42KGCLZ4RMISITEI Phillip

    This part confused me, because it just doesn't make sense:

    “When being open is financially beneficial to Apple, we’ll do it. Almost every smartphone Web browser uses WebKit — but you can’t use most of them on our iPhone or iPad. Because we’re open. And our browser is is better; we know what’s best for you.”

    “But you can't use most of them on your iPhone…”? What does that even mean? You cannot use another smartphone on your iPhone? Yeah, that's true, but it's like saying I cannot use my Hyundai with my Porsche. they're two different hardware devices.

    If you mean that you cannot run other webkit-based browsers on the iPhone, then I'd have to say that you're just wrong.

    • sydeshow

      the “them” in that sentence refers to the “smartphone web browsers” using WebKit. you can't use most of the web browsers on the iPhone OS.

      and when he says “most” of them, then he isn't wrong. seeing as there are only 2 you can use out of however many using WebKit, that would translate to most not being usable.

    • bigyaz

      Not really that confusing. Try again.

  • Vtxrider

    I wonder how much Adobe paid these A-Holes to post all this crap. I was a PC for 20 years, built them, sold them, and fixed them. I got so sick and tired of all of the PC crap ware, vapor ware, bad drivers, incompatible this and that. DAMN, no oversight, no quality control, no compatibility control. Then I switched….. nice, it just works without all the damn drama.

    • Rtech

      You built them, sold them and fixed them? Why would u be complaining you should have been rolling in the money from customers then huh?!?? lmao, your a horrible liar.

  • ely

    lol I don't know why Steve went through all that trouble about open or not… He could of just stated flash is a crap piece of software and everybody would agree….

  • http://www.mynext.co.uk mynext

    The thing that gets me here, is mac os without being able to run abode photoshop etc wouldn't have caught on as much as it has.

    Love the bullshit-free translation of the letter =] So true

  • umkcdds

    i find it amazing that so many people give a flying fuck what apple and steve jobs thinks about flash. last time i checked, apple only held about 14% of the computer market…a pretty insignificant amount. you like flash? then why give a fuck what apple thinks? you think apple charges to much? then don't buy their shit, but don't spend post after post after post complaining about their prices. get the fuck over it.

    • Rtech

      The reason people post is to inform the “illiterate” people in the technology field to not be so gullable, and buy something less capable for higher cost, aka being “burned”.

  • Dont care

    Well, BMW has a market share of around 5% and are pretty respected of what they do and how they do it. Their cars run with a lot of different 3. Party technologies, and no one complains if they choose not to carry e.g. brakes from one company, but chooses to go for another brand or ceramic brakes for the next generation. Then the rest of the automotive world will look, and probably follow.

    But when it comes to computers, people goes berserk over the same thing.

  • neil

    alright so why doesn't apple just buy adobe and close the doors. then he doesn't need to defend himself or his apple ways and every one can start to find this new golden apple that jobs promises

  • tcwand

    You are so right, hehe, we will see what will happen next decade when google crush apple with his new android mobile phone

  • http://www.cro-magic.com Ma?ioni?ar

    lol, how am I going to smile when my prediction come true…and my prediction is..
    Apple is going to add flash support next 3 years, is anyone willing to bet?

  • John

    The translator works flawlessly mate. Great job !

  • digitalphotography

    I've a telepathic connection with your translator, it was echoing in my head while reading jobs letter on their website…

    I've iphone, I love it, but I want it to run flash… if it will not, I will move on google droid. great that we have some choice now :)

  • brianshall

    Gotta say, I like mine better:
    http://brianshall.com/content/thoughts-steve-jo

  • jonsi

    Well here's the inspirational Jobs telling us the truth about his iThings ….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4KUk1jrDVU

    Oh and he gets his ass kicked too – must be worth a quick look.

  • No One

    The translation was bullshit. Not entertaining or informative on any level. What a fucking waste of time. Go fuck yourself.

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  • ilikeapples

    so much bs on this comment section. smh
    so what does everyone has to say about Adobe discontinuing Flash on mobile platforms?I guess Steve Jobs was right. 

  • Camerloon

    It’s rather humorous, but Steve has got some good points. It’d be smart to research and look at both sides rather than be biased, but I do agree that apple is being a bit controlling. But who isn’t these days?